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Comments on: Medieval Padding https://voynichportal.com/2020/07/31/medieval-padding/ Ruminations about the mysterious 15th century "cipher manuscript" Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:15:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: J.K. Petersen https://voynichportal.com/2020/07/31/medieval-padding/#comment-14065 Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:15:47 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10447#comment-14065 In reply to Helmut Winkler.

I have blogged on the -cis and -ris symbols which are sometimes also used at the ends of lines or paragraphs to represent the etcetera/and-so-on/osv. abbreviation (it serves both purposes in medieval texts). I have also mentioned it several times on the voynich.ninja forum:

https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-3052-post-34182.html#pid34182

In some of these posts, I included illustrations, in both the “cis” and “etcetera” forms:

Post #92
Post #14

I didn’t mention it in this blog because I wanted to focus on the similarity between the a-minim-minim-minim-v padding shape and the shape of the aiiv sequences. If I try to cover all of it in one blog, it becomes too long.

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By: Helmut Winkler https://voynichportal.com/2020/07/31/medieval-padding/#comment-14056 Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:27:12 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10447#comment-14056 I think you have ignored padding by using the etc – abbr., which is very common in the time period we are dealing with and is used in the ms. as well. And I dont think the ai sequences have anything to do with padding, they are obvious abbr., whatever they mean

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By: J.K. Petersen https://voynichportal.com/2020/07/31/medieval-padding/#comment-14047 Sat, 01 Aug 2020 21:50:25 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10447#comment-14047 In reply to Koen Gheuens.

I’m not at all sure that the function of the ai sequences is padding or even whether they are a distinct group within themselves. It’s possible that av, aiv, aiiv, and aiiiv are completely different from one another and only superficially look the same. Perhaps they are similarly shaped to obfuscate their meaning.

It’s possible that only the shape is borrowed from padding (which often starts with an “a” shape, followed by minims, and ends with a “v” shape) and yet the function of the sequences is something other than padding. And… there is still the possibility that they are numbers.

I think your question about “air” is a very good one. I’ve been looking into this as well. I need illustrations to explain my thoughts about the “air” patterns so I may have to answer in a blog rather than as a comment reply.

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By: Koen Gheuens https://voynichportal.com/2020/07/31/medieval-padding/#comment-14043 Sat, 01 Aug 2020 13:52:34 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10447#comment-14043 I like this path of investigation, especially since the way the VM text interacts with images would encourage padding and/or splitting. But I see one major counterargument: what about ain-clusters in labels? I’m just flipping through Q13 and I see several examples of where an [ai]-cluster is used in a label without any clear padding purposes. This is bad news, because it means that even if [ai]-clusters are used for padding, it cannot be their only function.

And what about [air]?

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