Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property ACF::$fields is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields.php on line 136

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_loop::$loops is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/loop.php on line 26

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property ACF::$loop is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/loop.php on line 270

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property ACF::$revisions is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/revisions.php on line 413

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_validation::$errors is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/validation.php on line 26

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property ACF::$validation is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/validation.php on line 212

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_customizer::$preview_values is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-customizer.php on line 26

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_customizer::$preview_fields is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-customizer.php on line 27

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_customizer::$preview_errors is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-customizer.php on line 28

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property ACF::$form_front is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-front.php on line 603

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_widget::$preview_values is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-widget.php on line 34

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_widget::$preview_reference is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-widget.php on line 35

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_form_widget::$preview_errors is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/forms/form-widget.php on line 36

Deprecated: Constant FILTER_SANITIZE_STRING is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/wp-external-links/includes/admin/class-wpel-network-page.php on line 52

Deprecated: Constant FILTER_SANITIZE_STRING is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/wp-external-links/includes/admin/class-wpel-settings-page.php on line 79

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_field_oembed::$width is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields/class-acf-field-oembed.php on line 31

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_field_oembed::$height is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields/class-acf-field-oembed.php on line 32

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_field_google_map::$default_values is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields/class-acf-field-google-map.php on line 33

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_field__group::$have_rows is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields/class-acf-field-group.php on line 31

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_plugin_font_awesome::$settings is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields-font-awesome/acf-font-awesome.php on line 50

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property acf_field_font_awesome::$settings is deprecated in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields-font-awesome/fields/acf-font-awesome-v5.php on line 21

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-content/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/includes/fields.php:136) in /home4/jensonje/public_html/voynichportal/wp-includes/feed-rss2-comments.php on line 8
Comments on: Who Copied the Voynich Manuscript? https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/ Ruminations about the mysterious 15th century "cipher manuscript" Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:57:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: J.K. Petersen https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/#comment-22977 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:57:08 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10963#comment-22977 In reply to Fabrizio Salani.

Fabrizio Salani, I sincerely apologize that it has taken me so long to reply to you. I have been away from my blog for almost two years, involved with important business concerning our national elections and have not had an opportunity to read comments until today.

I have not had even one hour to work on the Voynich Manuscript for far too long, but I have a great deal of research on your Voynich drawing and I think you will be excited to see what I have found.

Thank you for dropping by my blog. I would be very happy to see high resolution scans and the results of the research and also to share with you what I have found, which is important to the timeline of your drawing and Voynich research in general.

Let me know how we can communicate. Email is best for me since I have files I need to transmit to show you what I have uncovered.

]]>
By: Fabrizio Salani https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/#comment-19218 Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:42:19 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10963#comment-19218 Dear Mr. Petersen,
I am Fabrizio Salani, I apologize for writing to you just now, but I only found out a few days ago about your research on the parchment in my possession and first of all, many thanks for your time and research about the parchment I have found. If you think I can help you with your research, I can send you the high resolution scans of the parchment in my possession and the results of the Raman spectroscopy that I had made by the physics laboratories of the University of Modena and Reggio Emilia (UNIMORE), the university that carried out the same studies on the Borso d’Este’s Bible (1455-1461).
Remaining at your disposal for any other info, thank you again and best regards.
Fabrizio Salani

]]>
By: Barb https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/#comment-16976 Sun, 01 Aug 2021 18:05:50 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10963#comment-16976 Another thing: I followed the link on Ninja and found the original post. Honestly, this is amazing.

I did wonder whether the A G seal impression, with G centered in the middle of the A, might be a stylized or personalized Masonic symbol, so have asked the Freemason museum just to rule it out. Don’t know if they’ll reply.

]]>
By: Barb https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/#comment-16937 Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:16:45 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10963#comment-16937 I wish I could see anything on your chart! It looks exhaustive, complicated and well-researched as always though.

I’m sure this has nothing to do with it, but I do find it weird the copyist has used some of the weird conventions the original Voynich illustrator possibly used: the addition of the leaf and the different roots.

For instance, regarding extra or less components: on the Rosettes page, we have 37 moons when there should be 36, 13 spokes for the zodiac when there should be 12, 15 words for the spiral when there should, I think, be 14 , whereas below, if the cosmos is the cosmos, it has 6 temples, but the number should be 7 to represent the meeting of heaven and earth, and in the vegetabilis frame middle bottom, there should be 6 not 7 petals/spokes, as plants had an established number of parts, just as the zodiac did. The VMS author, to me, messes with the numerical symbolism by either adding or subtracting a “1”. It happens too often, always with “1” as the difference, to be a coincidence.

Re the roots, someone has already said somewhere that roots on the Voynich don’t match the plants. But this too might be a repeating motif in my interpretation. The bottom row of the Rosettes is cthonic, based on Greek myth, whereas the top row is Judeo-Christian. A dysjunction between top and bottom, “flowers” and “roots”. And there’s an illustration in the bath section that seems to explicitly show an evolution, or progression of religious ‘bodies’, from pantheistic Egyptian animal gods, to Greek, to Jewish to Christian. Once again, the “roots” don’t match the stems and “flowers”.

Regardless if you accept my interpretation, which I would have to exhaustively detail so won’t, and likely frame in apophatic theology and/or the Aristotelian empymeme, I find it very interesting that these two recurring motifs I have identified have been used by this illustrator when making his/her own copy.

It implies he or she was aware of them, when I’ve never seen them mentioned as a recurring motif (though that means nothing, as I’ve never read early interpretations, just D’Imperio’s selection), and for some reason has deliberately used them when copying from one to another.

Anyway, throwing that out in case somewhere along the line it contributes to your research, which I still have no idea about! But the idea you could find another, concrete piece of the puzzle is incredibly exciting! Well done, and best of luck writing it up!

]]>
By: Nick Pelling https://voynichportal.com/2021/04/28/who-copied-the-voynich-manuscript/#comment-15808 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:21:58 +0000 https://voynichportal.com/?p=10963#comment-15808 Very interesting, I look forward to seeing what you found out! :+)

]]>